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It's happened ladies and gentlemen. At 92,000 miles I was driving along and steam started to come out of the hood. I pulled over and saw that the radiator hose had ruptured. Had a friend give me a ride to get a new one. Replaced it and kept driving. Two miles later the car was overheating again. After looking in the coolant reservoir I saw nothing but brown.
After 6 hours of waiting for AAA and getting towed to the dealership I passed out and slept the whole weekend. Monday morning I woke up to a wonderful call from my local Subaru dealer that the head gasket was indeed blown and would cost $5,600 to repair!!!! At that moment I saw brown again but it wasn't oil........
After changing my pants I searched around for local shops and found one that would do the repair for $3,200. A Subaru specific shop I called told me that it would make a lot more sense to just buy a new engine since it would have to be dropped out of the car anyway to do the repair and possible water damage would crank the cost up rather quickly.
I found a used engine with 8,000 miles on it for about 1200 bucks. While I was at it I figured why not look for a new transmission as well, and found one with 16,000 miles on it for $800. The last shop I called said if I were to buy a new long block they could swap everything over to it and reinstall in the car for about $1,300. I'm going to call tomorrow to see how much it would cost to just do an engine and transmission swap instead.
If I can get an engine and transmission for around two grand or so and another thousand-ish for a swap then I should end up at about the same cost as the other shop wanted to replace the head gaskets. It's still really sucks, but I would rather buy a new engine than spend the same money to fix one with 92,000 miles on it. I'll update as the story progresses.
 

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Oh wow, that sucks. Definitely looking for updates.

How had the car been up until it blew?
 

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It's happened ladies and gentlemen. At 92,000 miles I was driving along and steam started to come out of the hood. I pulled over and saw that the radiator hose had ruptured. Had a friend give me a ride to get a new one. Replaced it and kept driving. Two miles later the car was overheating again. After looking in the coolant reservoir I saw nothing but brown.
After 6 hours of waiting for AAA and getting towed to the dealership I passed out and slept the whole weekend. Monday morning I woke up to a wonderful call from my local Subaru dealer that the head gasket was indeed blown and would cost $5,600 to repair!!!! At that moment I saw brown again but it wasn't oil........
After changing my pants I searched around for local shops and found one that would do the repair for $3,200. A Subaru specific shop I called told me that it would make a lot more sense to just buy a new engine since it would have to be dropped out of the car anyway to do the repair and possible water damage would crank the cost up rather quickly.
I found a used engine with 8,000 miles on it for about 1200 bucks. While I was at it I figured why not look for a new transmission as well, and found one with 16,000 miles on it for $800. The last shop I called said if I were to buy a new long block they could swap everything over to it and reinstall in the car for about $1,300. I'm going to call tomorrow to see how much it would cost to just do an engine and transmission swap instead.
If I can get an engine and transmission for around two grand or so and another thousand-ish for a swap then I should end up at about the same cost as the other shop wanted to replace the head gaskets. It's still really sucks, but I would rather buy a new engine than spend the same money to fix one with 92,000 miles on it. I'll update as the story progresses.
What year is your car?
 

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I guess we will start seeing how rare it actually is as people rack up more miles. That sucks though. Would you say you're an aggressive driver cause I definitely don't drive gingerly. Anybody else here nearing 100k mi or over?
 

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Sorry to hear this. Unfortunately, anything can happen. Glad to see the total cost to replace it doesn't appear to be too much money. HG issues have pretty much gone away with the FA/FB motors, so I was surprised to see this. I hope everything goes smooth and you get back on the road in no time!
 

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I guess we will start seeing how rare it actually is as people rack up more miles. That sucks though. Would you say you're an aggressive driver cause I definitely don't drive gingerly. Anybody else here nearing 100k mi or over?
I wouldn't say aggressive, but since the car is so slow I find myself having to put my foot all the way down just to get on the highway if the traffic is quick, lol. I can get pretty enthusiastic blasting through the woods down dirt roads, but it's not like I do that all the time.
 

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Update:
Called a couple other shops and figured out it would cost about the same to just buy another engine. My rally driver neighbor (Matt, from nameless performance, yes I brag all the time about it, LOL) recommended a nearby shop that works exclusively on Subarus. They were able to source an engine with 6,000 miles on it for $1,600. After other needed parts and labor the final quote is $3,500.

Why the hell would I spend about the same money to fix an engine with 92,000 miles when I can get one that just hit its first service interval? Since they're going to have everything dropped out already I asked them to source a transmission as well. I figure that it makes sense if I can swing it, especially since Subaru extended the warranty on the cvts to 100k due to reliability concerns.
He got back to me with a quote for $1,800 for a transmission with less than 10,000 miles on it. I'm saving quite a bit on labor since the engine is already going to be out, but the transmission itself is still $1,300.

That's definitely higher than I thought it was going to be, since I was finding several for $700 to $900. The advantage of going with the parts that they source is that they warranty not only the work but the parts themselves. If I source my own transmission and something happens I'm screwed.
So the saga continues. I have some decisions to make and some body parts to sell. I'll keep you all updated.
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Sorry to hear this. Unfortunately, anything can happen. Glad to see the total cost to replace it doesn't appear to be too much money. HG issues have pretty much gone away with the FA/FB motors, so I was surprised to see this. I hope everything goes smooth and you get back on the road in no time!
Not too much money for who? lol. Yeah stuff happens I know. I'm just one of those people who feels like it always happens to them. Had to get the transmission rebuilt on my last car for 3400 bucks. A couple years later it started puking coolant. Got it diagnosed and it was a hole in one of the coolant channels in the engine block. 2500 bucks to fix. I still owed $1,200 on the car. That was the most painful part. Ended up selling it to one of the service guys at the dealership for 500 bucks and I had to eat the rest of the loan. The only good part was that he fixed it and I saw it on the road about 6 months later, haha.
Anyways, a bit of a rant. It's just discouraging since the reason I bought a brand new car was to not have to deal with this crap, at least for more than 92,000 miles.
OH! Forgot, I also got backed into by a truck in my last car as well. Never fly on the plane with me, or invite me along to a casino, I'm sure my bad luck would rub off, lol.
 

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Damn dude that definitely sucks. Altogether the quote seems reasonable, but that’s a huge cost to eat in one go. Might as well drop a wrx or ascent engine in lol.
 

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Damn dude that definitely sucks. Altogether the quote seems reasonable, but that’s a huge cost to eat in one go. Might as well drop a wrx or ascent engine in lol.
I did play with the idea of putting in a different motor, but I was told by multiple sources thatú
it has to be the exact same engine going back in. It has something to do with the digit on the VIN number of the car that identifies the transmission type having to match the transmission. I also found out that you can't do a manual swap on our cars without changing the entire engine. The engine code on the CVT is different than the one on the manual. Don't ask me what the actual difference with the engines is, if any. Yes, since I am getting a new engine I thought about getting a manual transmission, but then all of that is programmed into the ECU. Then you need a new shifter, a new pedal box, and whatever other supporting components are required. If I really really had to have manual and I would just sell mine and buy one.
 

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It seems odd to me that they are changing the water pump on an engine with only "6000 miles" on it. Yes, it's easy to do while the engine is out, but it sure seems like changing a part just because you can. Hmm...
 

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I did play with the idea of putting in a different motor, but I was told by multiple sources thatú
it has to be the exact same engine going back in. It has something to do with the digit on the VIN number of the car that identifies the transmission type having to match the transmission. I also found out that you can't do a manual swap on our cars without changing the entire engine. The engine code on the CVT is different than the one on the manual. Don't ask me what the actual difference with the engines is, if any. Yes, since I am getting a new engine I thought about getting a manual transmission, but then all of that is programmed into the ECU. Then you need a new shifter, a new pedal box, and whatever other supporting components are required. If I really really had to have manual and I would just sell mine and buy one.
There should not be any difference except you'll be adding a clutch and it will need to be "tuned" Because you have more electronics in an automatic than a manual. You swap transmissions and all of a sudden the ECM and all will be trying to communicate with a transmission that is no longer there. So it will throw a fit and throw engine codes. From my experience and what I have heard all you would need to do is install the ECM that would come on a vehicle with a manual trans, then of course mount your new trans, punch out the hole for the clutch pedal, install a slave cylinder, install your new shift linkage and all that. The "vin needs to match" and all that is all for warranty stuff from my experience so they can prove you didn't change anything factory someone should correct my if I am wrong I am sure.
 

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There should not be any difference except you'll be adding a clutch and it will need to be "tuned" Because you have more electronics in an automatic than a manual. You swap transmissions and all of a sudden the ECM and all will be trying to communicate with a transmission that is no longer there. So it will throw a fit and throw engine codes. From my experience and what I have heard all you would need to do is install the ECM that would come on a vehicle with a manual trans, then of course mount your new trans, punch out the hole for the clutch pedal, install a slave cylinder, install your new shift linkage and all that. The "vin needs to match" and all that is all for warranty stuff from my experience so they can prove you didn't change anything factory someone should correct my if I am wrong I am sure.
That makes sense, unfortunately I'm sure that the labor cost in doing the conversion would push Way beyond my budget that is already beyond what I can afford, lol.
 
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